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Pension Wachter

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7.9Good

(457 Ratings)

"This was the first place we stayed after a 12 hour flight. The room was comfortable and clean. The breakfast was sooo good. We did purchase the Austrian “Vignette” but wasn’t needed as this was just a..."

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7.9 / 10.0

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Bed and Breakfast in Lindau

3-Star Bed & Breakfast

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Well priced for this locationPriced under area average

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Includes essentialsFree WiFi/internet, Balcony/Terrace and more

About this bed and breakfast

Just a 5-minute walk from the shore of Lake Constance and 1.9 mi from Bregenz, the family-run Pension Wachter provides free WiFi in public areas.

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7.9Good

(457 Ratings)

"This was the first place we stayed after a 12 hour flight. The room was comfortable and clean. The breakfast was sooo good. We did purchase the Austrian “Vignette” but wasn’t needed as this was just a..."

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7.9 / 10.0

Good(457 Ratings)

Bed and Breakfast in Lindau

3-Star Bed & Breakfast

Reasons to book

Well priced for this locationPriced under area average

Book with confidenceWe partner with the top travel sites so you know you're getting a great deal on the perfect rental

Includes essentialsFree WiFi/internet, Balcony/Terrace and more

Map of Lindau

city location on map

Nearby attractions

skywalk allgäu Naturerlebnis Park

Zeppelin Museum Friedrichshafen

Available Rooms

About this bed and breakfast

Just a 5-minute walk from the shore of Lake Constance and 1.9 mi from Bregenz, the family-run Pension Wachter provides free WiFi in public areas.

Things to know

Additional fees to expect

Cleaning & other feesWe include all stay related fees in the Cleaning Fee line, which may include cleaning, property manager, resort, tourism and other stay related fees. All Booking.com properties are professionally cleaned after each stay.

Booking feeNo booking fees, easy credit card payments.

Service feeThis helps Booking.com provide a safer and more secure booking experience.

TaxesTaxes on accommodation such as Occupancy Tax, VAT, or GST. May also include tourism fees.

Customer support

Customer support is handled by our partner Booking.com

Ratings and reviews

7.9 / 10.0

Good(457 Ratings)

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10.0 / 10.0

First place we stayed which was perfect as it was half way to our first real destination. Price was very good and breakf

This was the first place we stayed after a 12 hour flight. The room was comfortable and clean. The breakfast was sooo good. We did purchase the Austrian “Vignette” but wasn’t needed as this was just across the line from Germany and not on the autobahn.

You had to climb stairs to the room. If staying for one night maybe just take an overnight bag.

9.0 / 10.0

Wir kommen wieder

Breakfast was great; beds comfy not far away from the lake constanze Parking lot available Clean Owners of the hotel are very nice

5.0 / 10.0

Passable

Breakfast was due from 7.30, so for people who plan to leave early it is unavailable, they don't even provide package substitute. Bearing in mind that this is a border town, most travelleres must have chosen the place for its closeness to other countries. The town itself does not have any places where to have a meal, so be prepared to nave your own or to rely on the supermarket. Bear in mind that there is no fridge in the room and no fridge in the whole pension The biggest disadvantage is that we couldn't connect to the internet, or rather the rooter was not responding and there was no-one to fix it.

8.0 / 10.0

I liked the place, very suitable for one or two nights, the staff is very nice

nice place , I really like it

I liked the place, very suitable for one or two nights, the staff is very nice

10.0 / 10.0

Exceptional

Super clean room, very nice staff.

8.0 / 10.0

Very good

Clean and comfortable

There is traffic noise

9.0 / 10.0

A good place to explore Lindau

A spacious room, free parking nearby. Good breakfast. The receptionist helped us with tips for dinner places.

There was construction going on around the building. Not much they could do about it but the view from the balcony was not the best because of it.

10.0 / 10.0

Exceptional

Nice, clean rooms, walk yo lake boden directly from the hotel in five minutes, lovely views!

Area around the hotel is closing down / kind of shoddy and, not very well maintained.

10.0 / 10.0

Super lovely owners

Super lovely place! Really clean and nice, delightful breakfast and the nicest owners who took care of us really nicely. About 2 min walk from the Bodensee so in great location too!

8.0 / 10.0

Sometimes first impressions are incorrect.

Room #33 was updated and very clean and bright . Nice compact WC with good shower,water pressure and toiletries. Balcony was nice but directly on busy roadway with bridge construction close by . Bed was comfortable. The fan in the room was a great benefit . Staff was helpful and friendly . Breakfast was adequate but nothing special. The breakfast room was comfortable and although dated very clean and bright . Good WiFi in room and throughout the pension. Along Bodensee bike trail .

initial impression when approaching pension was less than comforting . Facade and reception could definitely use an update . However the room itself was much nicer than the first impression downstairs . No secure bike storage available . Just a side yard with a hedge around part and a low wooden gate which can be locked with a padlock .

8.0 / 10.0

Very good

Room clean and comfortable. Adequate off-road parking. Large balcony for viewing local area

Late check-in availability. Not a lot to see or do in the immediate area as road works dominate the nearby bridge reconstruction .

10.0 / 10.0

Exceptional

Great breakfast, very nice staff, perfect location to reach lake, train, grossery shop and still out from loud center.

10.0 / 10.0

Exceptional

Comfortable, friendly, clean. super!!!

10.0 / 10.0

Exceptional

Great location near Bodensee, nice and clean rooms, delicious breakfast.

8.0 / 10.0

Excellent value for money friendly pension in good location

We came for the Opera and chose this pension for value for money and location - close to Bregenz. It is situated between Lindau and Bregenz so is super easy with bikes or with public transport - train/bus is also good, or if you can also walk (bring swimmers and swim on the way!) . Only a few minutes walk down to the lake shore - a bonus being it is a very quiet area on the lake. The room was spacious with a balcony - its situated on a fairly busy road opposite the rather quirky old checkpoint - but at night noise was not a problem even with the windows open. The breakfast was excellent - better than a 4 star we stayed in Lake Garda - with smoked salmon, eggs, nice bread , yogurts and plenty fo fresh fruit. A lovely friendly pension, its cosy and a great spot for exploring.

7.0 / 10.0

Perfect Bregenz weekend on the lake

The balconies were very nice. And the proximity to the Bodensee (5 minutes by foot) was awesome. It was also perfect to be 15 minutes by bike from both Bregenz and Lindau.

7.0 / 10.0

Good price

Very friendly

Smell in bathroom

6.0 / 10.0

Sauberes Zimmer, Frühstück okay, aber Preis-Leistung nicht adäquat

Sauberes Zimmer, freundliches Personal, Lage für Bodenseeradweg gut aber ansonsten nicht so schön, Frühstück war Standard und okay

Haus von außen eher schäbig, Brötchen beim Frühstück nicht kross, es hat nur eine Nachttischlampe funktioniert, Preis-Leistung für diese Ausstattung nicht adäquat

8.0 / 10.0

Gute Übernachtungsmöglichkeit auf einer Reise um oder am Bodensee

Die Lage war hinsichtlich des Bodensees sehr gut. Man ist ganz schnell am Bodenseeradweg. Die Inhaber waren sehr freundlich. Unsere Fahrräder konnten wir gut in einem abgeschlossenen Bereich unterbringen. Das Frühstück war sehr lecker. Liebevoll und reichhaltig angerichtet, mit frischem Obst und toller Auswahl.

Die Pension liegt an der Grenze und eine Hauptverbindungsstrasse geht dort vorbei. Nachts war es ruhig, gegen Morgen weniger.

10.0 / 10.0

unkompliziert, freundlich

Das Frühstück war sehr gut, das Zimmer modern und sauber

7.0 / 10.0

Mit Ohropax gut

Wahnsinnig nettes Personal.Super gute Matratze.Sehr gutes Frühstück.

Extrem laut zur Straße hin.Bett sehr schmal.

7.0 / 10.0

Etape correcte pour une nuit.

Accueil sympathique, chambre et salle de bain de taille satisfaisante, proximité du lac (promenades à pied) et des restaurants/commerces.

La décoration est un peu datée et minimale. Petit déjeuner correct, sans plus.

8.0 / 10.0

Immer wieder gern

Freundliche Gastgeberin, sehr uriges Ambiente und super frische Luft im Zimmer

10.0 / 10.0

Es war alles wunderbar.

Zum wiederholten Male haben wir in der Pension Wachter übernächtigt. Die familiäre geführte Pension besticht durch die Herzlichkeit der Chefinnen. Unser Zimmer war sauber und mit allem ausgestattet was gebraucht wird. Das Frühstück war mit regionalen Zutaten wie Wurst und Käse sehr lecker. Der Standort der Pension ist sehr gut, 10 Gehminuten zum Bahnhof von dort aus 2 Minuten nach Bregenz und 5 Minuten nach Lindau Insel. Eine Bushaltestelle befindet sich direkt vor der Tür. Auch direkt vor der Tür der Radweg entlang am Bodensee. 2 Gehminuten entfernt gibt es einen Supermarkt und ein Kiosk in Sichtweite. Und wer aus Deutschland kommt und schlimmes Heimweh hat ist in 30 Sekunden wieder im Lande denn die Pension ist direkt an der Grenze. Wir kommen bestimmt wieder , es gehen liebe Grüße nach Österreich!

4.0 / 10.0

nur ein OK für eine Nacht

Lage nah zum Bodensee, Österreich usw.

Eingang unaufgeräumt, Zimmer renovierungsbedürftig, Frühstück unterdurchschnittlich Zimmerpreis zu hoch

5.0 / 10.0

schlicht und ohne jegliche Atmosphäre

Das Zimmer ist einfach und das Frühstück reichhaltig genug. Ein Parkplatz direkt vor der Unterkunft steht zur Verfügung.

Die Lage des Hotels ist recht abgelegen - direkt an der deutsch-österreichischen Grenze an der Durchgangsstraße und mit dem Auto ca. 15 min bis zur Innenstadt Bregenz. Die Anbindung an den ÖPNV ist nicht gut. Das Haus ist schlicht und etwas in die Jahre gekommen - eine gemütliche Atmosphäre stellt sich hier nicht ein. Die Besitzerin ist zwar bemüht, aber das allein reicht nicht. Eine defekte Badezimmerlampe ist dem Personal leider nicht von allein aufgefallen - eine kleine Duschgelplastikpackung für zwei Nächte ist dürftig.

8.0 / 10.0

Jolie découverte lors d'une brève halte sur la route des vacances.

Le petit déjeuner est copieux, très varié avec des viennoiseries, des gâteaux etc... ainsi que du fromage et de la charcuterie le tout de très bonne qualité. Il y en a pour tous les goûts. Le personnel est attentif à nos besoins. Chambre très propre et calme. La pension est à quelques minutes en voiture du centre de Lindau, jolie ville qui mérite une visite.

Rien.

8.0 / 10.0

Gerne wieder, Geheimtipp für 2 Tage

Tolle Wirtin, persönliche Atmosphäre, ruhige Lage trotz verkehrstechnisch guter Anbindung, sehr gutes Frühstück, sauber, gute Erreichbarkeit der Seebühne (Fahrrad),

Vieles im Stil der 70er Jahre (Geschmacksache)

9.0 / 10.0

Una pensión con buena relación calidad precio, servicio muy amable y desayuno espectacular

Tuvimos una muy buena estadía, el cuarto muy cómodo, amplio y limpio. El desayuno espectacular y el servicio muy amable.

La ubicación no es ideal, porque está justo al lado de la carretera con un poco de ruido cuando abres la ventana para tener aire. Pero el tráfico no era muy fuerte. De igual manera lo disfrutamos para descansar.

8.0 / 10.0

Einfach und gut 👍

Nicht modern und dabei alles okay. Freundlicher Empfang. Guter Platz für die Räder. Wir haben uns sehr über das leckere und umfangreiche Frühstück gefreut. Es gab sogar heisse Milch für den Kaffee.

5.0 / 10.0

Bien sans plus

L’emplacement, proche de la promenade du lac qui mène à Lindau, est idéale. Petit-déjeuner copieux. Bonne literie.

L’ensemble est propre mais vieillot. C’est surtout le bruit des voitures qui est gênant car il n’y a pas d’insonorisation. Penser aussi à un masque pour la nuit car pas de volets.

10.0 / 10.0

Nette kleine Pension in seenähe mit leckerem Frühstück

Wir wurden freundlich empfangen und haben uns sehr wohl gefühlt. Schöne geräumige Zimmer. Super Lage, in wenigen Minuten am See, wo man baden kann und mit dem Fahrrad in ca. 15min in Lindau oder Bregenz. Trotz der Lage an der Straße nachts sehr ruhig. Abgesperrter Fahrradstellplatz. Kleines Frühstücksbuffet mit großer Auswahl. Auf jedenfall weiter zu empfehlen!

Das einzige das vllt fehlt wäre eine Klimaanlage, ist aber bei der Buchung bekannt und wir haben mit offenem Fenster sehr gut geschlafen. Kissen sind sehr weich.

7.0 / 10.0

Motorradtour

Zimmergröße, Motorräder konnten in einem abgesperrten Bereich geparkt werden, Balkon

Die Lage direkt an der Hauptstraße, Pension ist etwas „in die Jahre“ gekommen,

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Parking is not specified as an available amenity at Pension Wachter. For more information, we encourage you to contact the property about where to park.

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